Every straightening machine conversation eventually reaches the same sentence: "What TIR can you guarantee?" Buyers who can answer that question precisely — value, length basis, measurement points — get accurate quotes and machines that pass acceptance. Buyers who cannot get arguments after delivery. This guide explains runout and TIR in plain terms, how straightness is measured by hand and by automatic machines, where the measurement points go, and exactly how to write the requirement on your inquiry.
By SHANGDA Engineering TeamReading time: 9 minutesFor: quality & production engineers
The one rule behind this guide: a tolerance number without a measurement method is not a specification — it is a hope. "0.05 mm" means nothing until you define 0.05 mm of what, measured where, over what length, with the part supported how.
When a shaft is supported on V-blocks or between centers and slowly rotated, a dial indicator touching its surface will swing up and down. That swing is radial run-out — the total movement of the needle through one full revolution. The difference between the highest and lowest reading is the Total Indicator Reading (TIR), sometimes called Total Indicated Runout.
TIR is not a single geometric error. On a real shaft it bundles together everything that makes the surface move under the probe: bending (the shaft is curved — the part straightening removes), out-of-roundness of the cross-section, and any eccentricity between the measured surface and the support journals.
Pure straightness is a slightly different geometric concept — how close the shaft's axis is to a perfect straight line, independent of roundness. In straightening practice, however, the industry measures and guarantees radial TIR because it captures exactly what matters in service: a bent shaft running in bearings will move, and that movement is what a dial indicator — or a machine — sees. When a drawing or a machine builder says "straightness of 0.05 mm", in nearly all production contexts it means 0.05 mm TIR measured on the part rotating in supports.
TIR won out as the standard language for three practical reasons:
It is measurable with cheap tools — V-blocks, a dial indicator and a surface plate — anywhere in the world, so buyer and seller can check the same thing.
It mirrors service conditions — a shaft rotates in bearings or between centers; TIR measured that way predicts vibration, seal wear and bearing life directly.
It is what an automatic straightening machine measures — the machine's probes read the same physical quantity as the inspector's dial gauge, so "guaranteed TIR" can be verified on the acceptance floor with familiar methods.
This last point is the key to a smooth machine purchase: negotiate the TIR value and the measurement method together, in writing, before ordering. (How that requirement feeds into machine selection is covered in our shaft straightening machine buyer's guide.)
The classic inspection setup, unchanged for decades:
Support the part on two precision V-blocks resting on a surface plate, or between dead centers — always on machined journals or centers, never directly on a rough surface.
Place a dial indicator (or digital probe) perpendicular to the shaft surface at the first measurement point, with the plunger preloaded.
Rotate the shaft one full turn by hand, slowly. The needle's high and low readings give TIR at that point: TIR = max − min.
Move the indicator along the shaft and repeat at each measurement point; record the values per point.
The worst point governs — the part is only as straight as its largest TIR.
A skilled inspector also "walks" the probe along the surface while rotating, to catch the location of maximum bend — which is exactly where a straightening press must apply force.
The V-block method is fine for incoming inspection of a few parts. It fails when straightening is a production process:
It is slow: minutes per part at every check — and straightening needs measure → correct → re-measure cycles, multiplying the time. An automatic machine completes the full measure-correct-verify loop in 20–90 seconds per part.
It is subjective: probe placement, rotation speed, reading the needle at the right instant — two inspectors on the same shaft can disagree by several microns.
It measures too few points: a long shaft with a bend between inspection points passes the check and fails in service.
It stops at the door: manual readings live on paper; there is no per-part data for traceability, SPC or customer claims.
A CNC straightening machine performs the same geometry as the inspector — support, rotate, probe — but with electronic probes and a control doing the arithmetic:
The part rests on roller supports or between centers and is rotated automatically.
Electronic probes (contact type on standard machines; high-resolution probes or laser systems on precision models) read run-out at every measurement point simultaneously or in sequence.
The control builds a bend map of the shaft: where each high point is, and how large it is.
It calculates the correction — press position and force — drives the servo-hydraulic ram, then re-measures in a closed loop until every point is in tolerance.
Results are logged per part: run-out before and after, correction points, pass/fail — the traceability data automotive and tier-1 customers now expect.
The measurement tier is what separates machine performance levels: standard electronic probes hold the broad middle band of 0.02–0.05 mm TIR; high-resolution or laser configurations hold ≤0.02 mm for precision screws and piston rods. The machine's measurement system — not its press tonnage — is where tight tolerance is actually bought. (The automation and cost trade-offs are detailed in Hydraulic vs. CNC vs. Fully Automatic Straightening Machines.)
Measurement location is half the result. Three rules:
Short parts: 2–3 measurement points (near each end and mid-span) are usually enough to characterize the bend.
Long shafts and bars: 5 or more points along the length. A long shaft bends in curves a 3-point check misses; automatic machines commonly use 5–8+ probes on long-bed models.
Support positions matter as much as probe positions. Measure at the wrong support spacing and the reading reflects the support layout, not the part.
The classic trap — gravity sag: a long, slender shaft laid horizontally on two end supports bends under its own weight, adding sag to the reading. Professional setups control this with proper support spacing (near the Airy-point positions), intermediate supports on long beds, or by referencing the machine's own fixture geometry. If a quoted tolerance on a 6-meter bar does not mention how sag is handled, ask.
| Application | Typical TIR requirement | Measurement approach |
|---|---|---|
| General bars, tubes, structural parts | 0.10–0.30 mm per meter | Manual gauge or standard probes |
| Automotive shafts, transmission parts | 0.02–0.05 mm | Electronic probes, closed-loop CNC |
| Precision screws, piston rods, high-rank hydraulics | ≤ 0.02 mm | High-resolution probes / laser, precision fixturing |
Note the "per meter" on the first tier: for long parts the requirement is often expressed as TIR over a length basis (e.g. 0.2 mm/m), because total deviation naturally accumulates with length. Always state whether your number is total TIR over the whole part or TIR per meter — confusing the two is a common source of quotation mismatches.
A speck of swarf on a V-block or a burred journal shows up directly as run-out. Clean supports and journals before every check.
TIR at one cross-section includes ovality. If the needle shows 2 high points per revolution, suspect roundness, not bending — the fix is grinding, not straightening.
Shafts straight off the heat-treatment line are still moving thermally. Let parts reach ambient temperature, or readings change after they cool.
A mid-span bend between two probes is invisible. Long parts need 5+ points; specify the point count in your acceptance method.
Self-weight deflection on horizontal supports inflates readings (see Section 6). Agree support spacing up front.
"Straight within tolerance" without value, basis and method invites a stand-off at acceptance. Write the full method (Section 9).
A complete straightness requirement — the kind that gets you an accurate machine quote and a clean acceptance test — contains five elements:
The value: e.g. 0.05 mm TIR (or 0.2 mm/m for long parts).
The length basis: total over full length, or per meter.
Measurement points: e.g. 3 points for shafts under 1 m, 6 points along the full length for long bars.
Support method: between centers, on V-blocks at the journals, or on machine rollers — and sag handling for long parts.
Incoming condition: measured run-out before straightening on your real heat-treated parts — this sets the machine's required tonnage and correction capacity.
Send that with your drawings and you should receive back a machine configuration with a guaranteed TIR in writing — and an offer to prove it. SHANGDA, for example, runs customer samples on its trial floor and delivers before/after run-out data with the machine, so acceptance is a formality rather than a negotiation.
TIR (Total Indicator Reading / Total Indicated Run-out) is the difference between the highest and lowest dial-indicator readings as a shaft is rotated one full turn in supports. It captures the shaft's bending along with roundness and eccentricity effects, and is the standard way straightness tolerance is specified and guaranteed for shaft straightening. Not exactly as geometric terms — pure straightness describes the axis line, while radial run-out also includes out-of-roundness and eccentricity. In production and machine acceptance, however, TIR measured on the rotating part is the practical "straightness" metric, because it predicts how the shaft behaves running in bearings. Support the shaft on precision V-blocks or between centers on a surface plate, place a dial indicator perpendicular to the surface, rotate the shaft one full turn, and subtract the lowest needle reading from the highest. Repeat at several points along the length; the worst point is the part's TIR. Typical guaranteed results: 0.10–0.30 mm/m for general bars and tubes; 0.02–0.05 mm for automotive and general precision work with standard electronic probes; ≤0.02 mm for precision parts with high-resolution or laser measurement. Always require the guarantee on your actual parts, measured your way. Short parts usually need 2–3 points; long shafts and bars need 5 or more along the length to catch bends between points. Automatic machines for long beds commonly use 5–8+ probes, with support spacing arranged to avoid gravity-sag error. Common causes: dirty V-blocks or journals, slightly different probe positions, reading the needle at different rotation speeds, hot parts, or out-of-roundness mistaken for bend. An automatic machine removes the human variables by measuring with fixed probes in a defined cycle and logging every reading.What is TIR in straightening?
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